What a pip is worth in money
Why a pip is not a fixed peso amount
A pip is a step in the price, not a step in your account. On a chart of EUR/USD at 1.0850, one pip up is 1.0851. The chart shows the price move. It does not show what that move pays you. The money part comes from two other numbers: the size of your trade and the pair you are trading.
The size of your trade is measured in lots. A standard lot is 1.00. A mini lot is 0.10. A micro lot is 0.01. Each lot size changes how much one pip is worth in money. The pair matters because pip value is first worked out in the quote currency. On EUR/USD the quote currency is USD. On a pair ending in PHP, if your broker offers one, the quote currency would be PHP. That is why the same twenty-pip move can pay a different peso amount on different trades.
The chart cannot tell you the peso amount on its own. It only shows the price path. To turn pips into pesos you need the lot size, the pair, and a conversion rate from the quote currency to pesos. Brokers show a pip value per lot in the platform. That number is the bridge between the chart and your account. Check it before you trade, because it varies by pair and by lot size.
How lot size changes the peso value of the same move
Start with one pip on 0.10 lots of EUR/USD. At the example rate of ₱58 per 1 USD, one pip is 1 USD. That is the figure used in the worked example. Now change only the lot size. On 0.01 lots, one pip is 0.10 USD. On 1.00 lot, one pip is 10 USD. The price move is still one pip. The money changes because the lot size changed.
Now hold the lot size at 0.10 and change the number of pips. One pip is 1 USD. Two pips is 2 USD. Twenty pips is 20 USD. In pesos, at ₱58 per 1 USD, twenty pips is ₱1,160. Ten pips would be ₱580. Five pips would be ₱290. Each figure recomputes from the same two numbers: pips times pip value, then times the conversion rate.
The mistake is to read twenty pips as a fixed amount of money. It is not. Twenty pips on 0.10 lots of EUR/USD is ₱1,160 at the example rate. Twenty pips on 1.00 lot is ten times that, or ₱11,600. Twenty pips on 0.01 lots is one tenth, or ₱116. The pip count is the same. The peso result is not. Always check the pip value for your exact lot size before you work out the peso amount.
What the platform adds around the pip value
The pip value is a clean number. Your final result is not. When you open a trade, the platform buys at one price and sells at another. The gap is the spread. On EUR/USD the spread is often a fraction of a pip, but it varies by broker and by account type. That gap is a cost you pay on entry. It is not part of the pip value itself.
Some accounts also charge a commission. That is a separate fee, often per lot traded. It varies by broker and by account type. The platform may also round the conversion rate from USD to pesos. If the rate is ₱58.00 on a screen but the platform uses ₱57.95, your peso figure will be slightly different. These are small numbers on small trades. They are still real costs, and they reduce what you keep.
The pip value does not change when the exchange rate moves. One pip on 0.10 lots of EUR/USD stays 1 USD. What changes is the peso amount, because the conversion rate changes. So the chart, the lot size, and the pair set the pip value. The exchange rate and the broker costs set the peso result. Keep those two ideas separate when you check a trade.
Twenty pips on 0.10 lots of EUR/USD
| Step | Amount | Note |
|---|---|---|
| Pip size on EUR/USD | 0.0001 | The standard smallest price step for this pair. |
| One standard lot | 100,000 units of EUR | The contract size the pip value is based on. |
| Pip value on one standard lot | 10 units of the quote currency | 100,000 x 0.0001 = 10. For EUR/USD the quote currency is USD, so this is 10 USD before conversion. |
| Lot size used here | 0.10 lots | One tenth of a standard lot. |
| Pip value on 0.10 lots | 1 USD per pip | 10 USD x 0.10 = 1 USD. |
| Move in pips | 20 pips | From 1.0850 to 1.0870 on the chart. |
| Result in USD | 20 USD | 1 USD per pip x 20 pips = 20 USD. |
| Conversion rate used | ₱58 per 1 USD | An example rate only. The real rate changes and varies between providers. |
| Result in pesos | ₱1,160 | 20 USD x ₱58 = ₱1,160. |
Brokers may round the conversion rate, add a spread when you open and close, and charge a commission on some accounts. The pip value itself does not change with the exchange rate, but the peso amount does.
Doing it once, step by step
These steps show how to turn a pip move on a chart into a peso figure for your own trade. Do them in order, once, before you place an order.
- 01
Read the price move on the chart
Look at the chart and note the entry price and the current price. On EUR/USD, count the pips between them. One pip is 0.0001. If the price moved from 1.0850 to 1.0870, that is twenty pips. Write the pip number down.
- 02
Find the pip value for your lot size
Open your platform and look for the pip value per lot for EUR/USD. If it shows 1 USD per pip on 0.10 lots, use that. If your lot size is different, the platform will show a different figure. Do not guess. The number varies by pair and by lot size.
- 03
Multiply pips by pip value
Take the pip count from the chart and multiply it by the pip value in the quote currency. Twenty pips times 1 USD per pip is 20 USD. That is the gross amount in USD, before any broker costs. Write it down.
- 04
Convert to pesos at the example rate
Multiply the USD amount by the conversion rate. At ₱58 per 1 USD, 20 USD is ₱1,160. This is the peso figure for that trade at that rate. If the rate changes, the peso figure changes, but the pip value in USD does not.
- 05
Subtract the broker costs
Check the spread and any commission on your account. The spread is the gap between buy and sell prices. The commission is a separate fee on some accounts. Both vary by broker. Subtract them from the gross amount to see what the trade actually pays.
- 06
Compare the result with your account balance
Look at the final peso figure next to your account balance. If the amount is large compared with the balance, the trade is large for that account. The same twenty-pip move pays differently on different lot sizes. That is why the pip count alone is not enough.
The mistake most people make here
The common mistake is to read the profit in pips and treat it as money. Twenty pips sounds the same on every trade, but on 0.10 lots of EUR/USD it is ₱1,160 at the example rate, while on 1.00 lot it is ten times that, and on 0.01 lots it is one tenth. The second mistake is to forget that the pip value is quoted in the quote currency, so a peso figure always needs a conversion. Before placing an order, check the pip value for your exact lot size and pair in your platform, and work out the peso amount from there.Check yourself
If one pip on 0.10 lots of EUR/USD is 1 USD, what is twenty pips worth in USD?
1 USD per pip x 20 pips = 20 USD.
Using the example rate of ₱58 per 1 USD, what is 20 USD in pesos?
20 USD x ₱58 = ₱1,160.
If you trade 0.01 lots instead, what is one pip worth in USD?
10 USD x 0.01 = 0.10 USD per pip.
Questions that come up next
How do I find the pip value for my exact lot size?
Open your trading platform and look for the instrument details or contract specifications. Most platforms show a pip value per lot for the pair you are viewing. If you trade 0.10 lots, divide the standard lot pip value by ten. If you trade 0.01 lots, divide by one hundred. Check this before you place an order, because the number changes with the pair.
Why does the pip value change with the pair?
The pip value is first worked out in the quote currency. On EUR/USD, the quote currency is USD. On a pair ending in PHP, the quote currency would be PHP. So a pip on EUR/USD is worth a number of US dollars, while a pip on a PHP pair would be worth a number of pesos. To get a peso figure for EUR/USD, you convert from USD to PHP.
Does the exchange rate change the pip value?
No. The pip value in the quote currency stays the same. On 0.10 lots of EUR/USD, one pip is 1 USD whether the exchange rate is ₱58 or ₱60. What changes is the peso amount after conversion. If the rate moves, the same USD pip value becomes a different number of pesos. That is why the peso result is not fixed.
What costs does the broker add around the pip value?
The pip value is a clean number, but your final result is not. When you open a trade, the broker applies a spread, which is the difference between the buy and sell price. Some accounts also charge a commission. The spread and commission reduce your profit or increase your loss. The pip value itself does not include these costs.
Can I trade EUR/USD with a Philippine broker?
Some brokers regulated by the SEC Philippines offer EUR/USD and other foreign exchange pairs. The rules and the products available vary between brokers. Check the broker's licence and the contract specifications before you open an account. This course does not recommend any broker.
How do I convert the pip value to pesos if my account is in pesos?
First find the pip value in the quote currency, which is USD for EUR/USD. Then multiply by the current USD to PHP exchange rate. For example, if one pip is 1 USD and the rate is ₱58 per 1 USD, one pip is ₱58. Your platform may show the conversion automatically, or you may need to calculate it. The rate your broker uses may differ slightly from the rate you see elsewhere.
In the Philippines
- Money
- The peso, written ₱ (PHP).
- Instrument in these examples
- EUR/USD, around 1.0850.
- Regulator
- SEC Philippines. Check that a firm is registered before sending money.
- Payment methods
- GCash and bank transfer are common ways to fund and withdraw. Fees and processing times vary between providers.
- Peso conversion
- The USD to PHP rate changes daily and differs between banks and platforms, so any peso figure here is an example only.
The words used on this page
- pip
- The smallest standard step in a price. On EUR/USD, one pip is a move of 0.0001. A chart price of 1.0850 becomes 1.0851 when it rises one pip.
- lot
- A measure of trade size. A standard lot is 1.00, a mini lot is 0.10, and a micro lot is 0.01. The lot size changes how much one pip is worth in money.
- quote currency
- The second currency in a pair. On EUR/USD, the quote currency is USD. The pip value is first worked out in this currency.
- conversion rate
- The rate used to change one currency into another. To get a peso figure from a USD pip value, you multiply by the USD to PHP rate. Brokers may round this rate.
- spread
- The difference between the buy price and the sell price when you open a trade. It is a cost that the broker applies. The spread reduces your profit or increases your loss.
- commission
- A fee charged by some brokers on certain accounts. It is separate from the spread. Not all accounts have a commission.
What to take away
- A pip is a price step, not a money amount. The money depends on lot size, the pair, and the conversion rate.
- The same twenty-pip move pays different peso amounts on different lot sizes. On 0.10 lots of EUR/USD at ₱58 per 1 USD, twenty pips is ₱1,160. On 1.00 lot it is ₱11,600. On 0.01 lots it is ₱116.
- Always check the pip value for your exact lot size and pair in your platform before you work out the peso amount.
- Brokers may round the conversion rate, add a spread, and charge a commission. The pip value itself does not change with the exchange rate, but the peso amount does.